04-07-2009, 12:06 PM,
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El Gordo
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July 2009
glaconman Wrote:Just got to find out which channel it's on this year.
ITV4, starting 4.30 today.
I decided the other other day that I would try to follow the Tour this year. I've shown little interest in previous years but there's something noble about this event that I can't ignore, and I want to try to understand it better. I suppose Armstrong reappearing has added some extra spice.
Armstrong was second favourite last time I noticed - a few days ago.
El Gordo
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05-07-2009, 06:45 AM,
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July 2009
Following the tour is a bit like appreciating the work of Raoul Duke.
You just have to see past the drugs ...
I certainly appreciate the endeavour; after all, the endurance required to get through the stages day after day makes a marathon look like walk in the park. But as a live sporting spectacle the whole thing leaves me flat. I feel there's something else I should be doing when I'm sat watching which, I guess, is as clear an indication as you can get that I'm not fully engaged*.
You'll have to excuse me, I'm feeling slightly twisted just at the moment. We set sail for Bewl in 45 minutes and I'm feeling as naked and unprepared as I ever have for a running event. Fear and self-loathing at the breakfast table you might say. It's an ugly scene, made worse by the fact I'll be traveling to and fro in a wagon full of svelt, honed athletes.
[SIZE="1"]*I imagine that's much how many people view cricket [/SIZE]
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The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph
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06-07-2009, 12:06 AM,
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July 2009
glaconman Wrote:I wouldn't recommend watching Le Tour live. The 60 minute evening shows are all you need.
I'm shocked. Truly shocked.
Perhaps your coverage isn't as astonishing fabulous as ours, but in all honesty I find the full coverage so engrossing that I can no longer watch the highlights packages. This is a problem, as of course le tour is overnight here. But hey, we all make sacrifices I guess.
Wimbledon/Ashes/Le Tour/Rugby & Aussie Rules football getting to the business end of their seasons ... what an amazing time to be alive.
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06-07-2009, 04:18 PM,
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Bierzo Baggie
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July 2009
That looks like a nice big hill you've got there next to Keighley.
If I've read this right it looks like Armstrong has just attacked a member of his own team...right at the beginning of the Tour . Fireworks delivered ... a disaster for Contador in terms of morale more than in terms of time lost (a team leader without the support of his team) and the start of what could be a very interesting couple of weeks...the grizzly old Texan is going for it.
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09-07-2009, 02:46 AM,
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July 2009
glaconman Wrote:I tried to inject abit of pace during the mid-part of the run but got caught-out with a stitch half-way. Not sure I understand this phenomenon. I hadn't eaten for about 8 hours. Always seems like abit of a random occurence.
I quite agree - there doesn't seem to be much rhyme nor reason to them, does there?
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10-07-2009, 10:40 AM,
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Bierzo Baggie
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First mountain stage today.
Armstrong could take the yellow jersey... but will Contador try to get his own back and attack? and Leipheimer? (will probably help Armstrong... or will Armstrong end up helping him?) ....Sastre? ...Cadel Evans?
I hadn't realized that Ventoux was the penulimate stage. Potentially this is the best Tour for years...
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10-07-2009, 10:07 PM,
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July 2009
Bierzo Baggie Wrote:First mountain stage today.
Armstrong could take the yellow jersey... but will Contador try to get his own back and attack? and Leipheimer? (will probably help Armstrong... or will Armstrong end up helping him?) ....Sastre? ...Cadel Evans?
Well, what a stage. Contador looked great, but so did Armstrong, who matched everything Cadel Evans tried to throw at him... You have to feel sorry for Cadel: twice runner-up in the Tour and once again having to contend with an astonishingly powerful-looking Armstrong.
I'm kind of hoping though that someone like Contador will prove too strong, as he did today. Some fresh blood (hopefully still clean) would be fantastic for the race and the sport generally.
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11-07-2009, 06:22 AM,
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El Gordo
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I've marvelled at the spectacle of the TdF so far, though there's plenty about it that I don't understand, like the teamwork (both between them all, and within the actual teams), and the scoring. I'll get there eventually, but it's a learning curve even steeper than some of those mountain stretches I've been gaping at.
(And wasn't Barcelona simply gorgeous darling? )
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11-07-2009, 01:04 PM,
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Bierzo Baggie
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Glaconman, I hope you don’t mind your training diary being converted into an occasional Tour de France meeting point… after all, you’re the one who has ridden up Ventoux
El Gordo Wrote:I've marvelled at the spectacle of the TdF so far, though there's plenty about it that I don't understand, like the teamwork (both between them all, and within the actual teams
Andy, each team has a team leader. If your team leader has a chance of winning the Tour, the rest of the team will work for that objective. They’ll protect their lead rider, neutralize breakaways by rivals, etc..
What makes this Tour unique is that the strongest team, Astana, has two leaders, Contador and Armstrong. The guy who normally makes all the tactical decisions is the team manager who rides around in the car. In the case of Astana it’s officially Johan Bruyneel who pulls the shots… but everybody knows it’s really Armstrong.
Now, a team leader can change mid-race (in 97 a young Jan Ullrich dropped back to ask the team manager for permission to attack fat-arse Bernie Riis, his team leader and ended up winning the race) but I don’t think we’ve ever seen two yellow jersey contenders from the same team scrapping it out in the very first week totally oblivious to the guy in the car!
I reckon Armstrong will eventually support Contador but he’s going to make it hell for him if he can… the wily old fox wants a worthy successor.
Revelation of the Tour so far ...Bradley Wiggins.
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11-07-2009, 04:03 PM,
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El Gordo
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Thanks BB -- that's helpful. I didn't realise that a bloke in a car has that direct an influence mid-race. Yep, I've picked up on the 'tension' between Armstrong and Contador, which adds to the fun.
It's still a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma though, as Churchill opined on the subject. Or was he talking about mastering the art of predictive texting? The different competitions, the jerseys, the stage types, the tactics in the final few kilometres -- it's an opaque minestrone, but I'm lovin' it. Main emotion though is just a sense of awe at the speed and power of these guys.
Oh yes, sorry for the thread hijack GM -- sounds like you're running really well at the moment. Good man. Glad someone is keeping the participatory flag flying while the rest of us are stapled to our armchairs. (Though I have at least been doing some walking this week. It's a start....)
El Gordo
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